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In this current time when we hear so many stating that they have the leadership experience to lead our country, I wonder if the definition of the word has changed.

My idea of a leader is a person who is accountable for their decisions.  This is a person who is capable of inducing others to do things in an efficient and orderly manner.  One who administrates a budget, makes decisions about how to administrate a budget and about how to hold others responsible for carrying out directives is a leader.  A leader is accountable for the results.

Governors, City Councils, Presidents, mayors, managers, and parents do this.  People in staff positions advise and provide information to those who make the decisions, they do not lead.

How is it that we have Senators touting their leadership experience based on their Senate records?  These records are not of leadership.  Senators do not administrate budgets.  They do not lead people or stand accountable for how a government is run.  They advise  and submit suggestions to the Executive Branch, and it is the Executive Branch that leads (gets it done).  An accountant's spouse is not an accountant, a lawyer's spouse is not an attorney.  If one such spouse suggested otherwise it would be laughable.

From what I can see, we do not have one candidate that is in the finalist tier that has any Leadership experience.  I have never seen a successful manager interview based on a person who applies for the job saying I know that I can do the job, just trust me.  How successful would a candidate for a managment job be if all that they could say is I'm qualified because I've been around managers all of my career?

The rhetoric that we are being subjected to is consistent across all of the candidates.  They are all promising to be successful at doing something that none of them has done, and that is leading.  None of them has ever been accountable for the results of their governmental decisions.  They are all masters at parrying the blame for things that didin't turn out so good and at taking credit for the things that turned out well.  In every case, however, someone else has had the job of getting things done.  Those someone else's are the leaders.

Whether it is Barak with his smooth sounding words, or Clinton with her "I've been everywhere the leader has been" message, or McCain with his senate record, none of them have leadership experience in government.  McCain at least does have military leadership experience, but that is a far cry from running the biggest business in the world which is the US government.

I do not care whether these candidates are left, right, conservative or liberal.  Their personal belief systems do not qualify them to lead.  Further, unless they are running for dictator their personal belief systems will not move the Congress to give them the tools to do what they want to do.  All of the palaver about who is a true conservative or who is the farthest to the left is off target at best.  Let's concentrate on who it is that can LEAD.  Which one is it that will stand up and willingly say, "the buck stops here." and mean it?

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GRAYWOLF read my blog view my photos
Feb 26, 2008 | 2:34 PM

Unfortunately, I think, whoever is the most polarizing may be the best candidate...We are much safer if Congress can't get anything done because they are too busy posturing...

Marks read my blog view my photos
Feb 26, 2008 | 4:31 PM

Didn't Hillary "run" the Travel Office during her husband's admin?

Marks read my blog view my photos
Feb 26, 2008 | 4:35 PM

McCain running an air group in the Navy is better than nothing...which is the exact amount of leadership experience in Obama and Clinton combined.

I guess "Leadership" is a very relative term in this election cycle.

KellerKowboy read my blog view my photos
Feb 26, 2008 | 8:49 PM

To me at least, that's one of McCain's strongest assets. I have lived and worked in a military or quasi-military setting most of my life and would much rather have a man with his military background, training and experience.

From a purely "leadership" standpoint, HRC has more experience than BO (mostly by osmosis), and he simply has none at all.

twotailcat read my blog view my photos
Feb 26, 2008 | 9:14 PM

Well spoken, great post.
Leadership however may be over rated as a presidential skill. There are too few of the "willing" to follow a leader today. We have learned from notable failures of character to totally disrespect our President: Nixon's watergate, Carter's Iran crisis, Clinton's zipper, etc.

Life will be made hell for whoever wins as we are a country divided if not irreparably fractured with too little intellect left to see the dangers we are facing from within.

KellerKowboy read my blog view my photos
Feb 26, 2008 | 9:21 PM

TTC, I certainly don't disagree. I do think, however, that when the word "winger" was first associated with factions of the two major parties, we started down a very slippery slope....and haven't reached bottom yet.

There was a time (and I remember it well) when congressmen and senators actually worked pretty well together, in the best interests of the country. They were called statesmen back then. I haven't seen a statesmen in several years.

GRAYWOLF read my blog view my photos
Feb 27, 2008 | 9:40 AM

"There was a time (and I remember it well) when congressmen and senators actually worked pretty well together, in the best interests of the country."

Come on KK, you aren't 200 years old!!!!

People are desperate to follow...if you don't believe me, just look at what they are voting for!

KellerKowboy read my blog view my photos
Feb 27, 2008 | 9:52 AM

hehehehehe....OK, ya' got me there (just 188), but I do consider myself a bit more informed than the average voter and have no problem following a real leader. The credentials I'm seeing from the current crop are Madison Avenue created and - especially with HRC and OB - are practically nonexistent. Therefor, I have to agree with Applewood's original post.

As for my statement; I'll stand by what I wrote. It has been "a while", but it hasn't always been anywhere near this divisive. In this day and age, I see no effort at compromise. I know you tend to believe that as long as their's political logjam, and congress can do little or nothing, we're better off. In some cases I agree with that, but in the long run, problems tend to become extremely serious over time and without congressional attention.

GRAYWOLF read my blog view my photos
Feb 27, 2008 | 10:24 AM

Actually, I believe we would be better off if they would just obey their oath of office...second choice is for them to do nothing, simply because nothing is better than what they have been doing for the last several decades.

If they aren't passing new laws, they aren't violating the Constitution and they aren't screwing us over...

KellerKowboy read my blog view my photos
Feb 27, 2008 | 11:15 AM

As long as they "support and defend the Constitution of the United States" as its various segments are interpreted and settled law dictates, rather than how some legal wizard from Berkley decides it should be misconstrued, I'd agree totally. Legislating from the bench and applying political interpretation to the settled law that is the Constitution is "screwing us over...".

Applewood read my blog view my photos
Feb 27, 2008 | 11:40 AM

What a wonderful discourse.

KK - There hasn't been a dependable statesman or stateswoman in ages. For many of us who served and love this country it is very sad to see what is being laid out for our grandchildren to endure. My children and grandchildren are so accustomed to what goes on in politics these days that they have no frame of reference for perceiving the loss.

I blame Nixon for disgracing the office of president, I blame the Congress for taking advantage of his failure. They treat the office of President with open disdain and mistrust. Then along comes Mr. Clinton and compounds the perception that the office of President is not to be respected or trusted.

All of this works together to produce the partisan bickering. There is obviously no sense of shame or honor left in DC. This is sad because our country is going to hell in a hand basket and there is no one to save it.

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