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My Faith is Christian, of which I do not have to justify to anyone but God!
In addition, Charles Darwin also tithed to the church, but that did not make him a Christian, he was just hedging his bets. In his book "The Origins of the Species" he was trying to explain what was already accepted as a given by the scholars of the day. Hence "Darwins theory of Evolution" is not his theory.

We have Science, Fact! The off-shoot of which is Evolution. Again as I stated earlier, the missing link has not been found. It has to be based on Faith, on this we agreed. Then we have Religion. Christianity is an off-shoot of Religion which is also based on faith. The off-shoot of that are denominations which is what has given "Religion" a bad name.
If you read closely I stated (2 Pet 3:8) a day is like a thousand years. God's creation in Genesis took 7 of HIS days, not necessarily 7 of our days. I am unaware of any humans who were there at the time of creation with a clock. God's definition and ours are rarely the same.
What about the dinosaurs? The Leviathon mentioned in the Bible is considered by most Biblical "scholars" (I use the term loosely) to be a whale. Where are the Dinosaurs noted as part of God's creation?

Carbon14 dating has proven many Biblical relics and locations are as the Bible states.
Do we accept only what proves the Bible and discount scientific proof of Dinosaurs who roamed Earth millions of years before it was Biblically created?

Why do we study the Bible? To learn more about who we are and where we are going, and how we are supposed to live wh

Good analysis. Glad to see a new point of view. Keep it up.

The only "proof" I can supply comes from the scientific community. As far as the Puntuated Equilibrium Postulate, it is not widely accepted anymore, so I will not cover it.
Depending on your definition (which scientists still argue over) Macro means diversity between species, Micro meaning within species. Macroevolution sometimes called Supraspecific evolution or large scale evolutionary change.
There is some scientific facts supporting Theory Reduction which means: A movement from microlevel to macrolevel, however speciationand higher evolutionary processes affect what happens at lower levels as well.
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I like this post Cruiser, as I have long felt the same way. No one, and I mean NO ONE can prove anything about either creation or evolution- they are theories and beliefs. It makes sense to me that the middle is where the truth is, and not one extreme or the other. It's too bad so many people on both sides cling so strongly to something they couldn't prove either.

I think the "Big Bang" was God creating the universe, and evolution is His creation changing with its environment, and I do not believe we evolved from anything other than an earlier form of ourselves (as all available evidence would point to), that is why there is no "missing link" to be found, it will forever be missing. I don't think the entire earth flooded, just Noah's "world"- up until only a few hundred years ago man believed he would fall off the edge of a flat planet, so it's hard to believe thousands of years ago man was more enlightened about his surroundings then now. The stories in the old testament were passed down for thousands of years verbally before ever being put into writing. You can't even tell a short sentence to one person and have it come back to you the same after going through only a few people in a matter of minutes, nevermind thousands of years and countless people. Point is, that although I believe in the bible, you have to account for the context and manner in which it was written and not take it so literally. God could easily have made a million years go by in a day, He is God after all. And it would make sense that He would want to put His creation of man onto a planet that had

All Hail DDawg, I think he's got it!
This is one topice that is not easily explained. As previous posts indicate, not all people grasp the concept. It's refreshing to find those individuals who have an open mind and think out of the box. We tend to put GOD in a box. The belief is that there are some things he can't do! How foolish we are when we limit the Limitless.

Transitional Evolution is till in limbo. There is no empirical evidence, hence it is still a theory. They have found DNA strands from some fossils that have many of the same markers as found in different species, but are hesitant (with good reason) to publish them on a wide scale. Not only would they be ridiculed by the creationists but lamb-basted by their own peers.

scotty, I agree wholeheartedly that we should be good stewards of the earth. God has given us a great gift that should not be abused.

Just for clarity: I worship the ONE and only GOD!
I do not worship man, science or even religion!
I do question all things, evangelical preachers who commit adultery, Catholic priests who molest little boys, scientists who manipulate their findings to prove their flawed assertions.

I delve as deeply into researching science as I do gaining knowledge and insight from the Bible.

Thank you all for the brain exercise. I look forward to more debate.

scotty,

You're really making me think today....I love it!

Here we go: There are many versions of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Basically, a Thermal Equilibrium occurs when two "systems" in thermal contact cease to exchange energy by heat. Their temperatures are the same. In addition, entropy (thermalization) is the tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity.
The trick is justifying evolution while still supporting 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.
The problem is......they can't. When one contradicts the other, adjustments are made in the definitions of both to allow the merging of both and everybody (science) is happy!

"We should all be good stewards of the earth, however ever mindful that we are to worship God, not man, not science, not earth."

Good point Scotty, and therein lies the dilemma. The extreme left want everyone to believe we are causing climate change, and therefore destroying our planet. The extreme right want us to believe we are too insignificant to destroy our world and the left is nuts for saying so. Neither will give an inch, but both need to give a mile. Point is, we are arguing about something that we can change if we could agree we need to. God created a perfect world, we began destroying it in Eden, and we continue to do so not only with polution, but with ignorance.

Cruiser, you are so far off base. I can tell that you do not know or understand the Bible very well. It seems that you read some verses without understanding or research, then you take them out of context. 2 Peter 3:8 has nothing to do with creation. It simply means time means nothing to God. There is no difference in the Lord's sight between a day and a thousand years. It is the same to Him. The verse means time is meaningless to God. And yes, if you will research the creation, you will indeed find that Earth was created in six actual days. There was no big bang. Black holes are only a theory, yet to be proven. And by the way, carbon 14 testing is very unreliable. If you knew your business, you would also know that fact. There are newer, far better ways now that are more accurate. Darwin claimed to be agnostic. I have to say that religion sends people to hell. Too many people serve the religion, rather than God. continued....

I am happy that you do trust in God. One day we will know all things. Religion and science do go hand in hand. Science is starting to agree with religion about the earth and Biblical history. There is hope. I see that you sing in a choir. May I ask what church ? I also sing in the Prestonwood choir. Motorcycle huh !! I ride an ultra classic. No better way to travel. Very good comments here. Blessings...