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by Herschel from You don't know, do you?

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While I'm not the one to celebrate the demise of anyone- I would like to shake the hand of that Marine.

People are tired of being victimized.

It's one thing when an innocent person is gunned down by criminals. I hate that. 
But, when criminals are gunned down by the innocent, I have no problem with that.

You know, in most cases, that man would have been beaten or killed. It didn't happen that way this time...  While it's sad to see a young man not get to live his life- as far as I'm concerned, his death was self-inflicted.

What do you think Dallas? 

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Ex-Marine takes down two robbers in Fla.
PLANTATION, Fla., June 28 (UPI) -- A 71-year-old ex-Marine took down two would-be thieves at a sandwich shop in Plantation, Fla., after they attempted to rob him in the bathroom.
Fearing for his life the man opened fired on the two suspects Wednesday night, killing one and critically wounding the other, The Miami Herald reported.

Plantation police reported that two masked gunmen entered the shop while the Marine, the only patron in the store, was finishing his meal.

They then allegedly robbed the cashier before attempting to shove the ex-Marine into a bathroom and rob him as well.

He gave them his money before pulling out his handgun and shooting one of them in the head and chest and the other in the head, the Herald said.

Both of the suspects were taken to the hospital, where one of them died and the other remains in critical condition.

Detective Robert Rettig of the Plantation Police Department said the ex-Marine is not expected to be charged.

"He was in fear for his life," Rettig said.


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The Plot Thickens

Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men — killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could gun them down and not be charged.

John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11: 15 p.m. Wednesday when, Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to Lovell. They wanted his money, police said.

But like his attackers, Lovell was armed.

Florida law gives people the right of "self-defense without the duty to retreat." That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere to prevent death or serious injury.

Lovell could not be reached for comment despite calls and visits to his home.

His attorney, Wesley White, of Yulee, near Jacksonville, said he has known Lovell for 19 years and described him as a "quiet Clint Eastwood-type you don't want to mess with." He is a former Marine who was a member of the helicopter detail that transported Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, White said.

Lovell, a retired Pan-Am and Delta Airline pilot, has held a concealed weapons permit since September 1990. Three months earlier, Plantation police had arrested him for having a loaded .9 mm and three extra clips behind the driver's seat of a Corvette without proper permits for the gun. The Broward State's Attorney's Office declined to file charges in that case.

According to a police statement, :Arrindell ordered Lovell to hand over his wallet. He intentionally dropped it on the floor and refused to pick it up, saying he was afraid. That's when Arrindell ordered him into the women's restroom.

"The victim believed he would be executed and when he noticed [Arrindell] distracted ... reached behind his back, removed his loaded .45 caliber handgun from his holster and fired seven rounds," the statement said.

Arrindell was struck twice — once in the head and once in the stomach — and collapsed. Officers found him face down, wearing sunglasses and a bandanna, with a gun near his left hand. Gadson was hit in the chest and ran from the store. Police dogs found him in the hedges of a nearby office building and bank.

Both men were taken to Broward General Medical Center, where Arrindell died and Gadson was in critical condition Thursday.

Sebastian Shakespeare, 23, of Lauderhill, was going to buy a sandwich at the Subway at 1949 N. Pine Island Road when he saw Lovell, gun in hand, standing over Arrindell. A former employee, Shakespeare worked the night shift and often worried about getting robbed.

He said Lovell did a good deed. "A civilian was a hero."

Lovell's neighbor agreed.

"If I was in the same situation ... I hope I could've done the same thing," said Bryan Sklar, 45.

But Gadson's grandmother, Rosa Jones, said: "He ain't no hero. He is a murderer and God will serve justice."

She and her husband, Ivory Jones, pastor of a Fort Lauderdale church, sat on their front porch in Fort Lauderdale on Thursday wondering how a man could shoot two people and not go to jail.
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Easy, it's called self-defense.

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KellerKowboy read my blog view my photos
Jun 29, 2007 | 9:53 PM

"Marine: Hero or Vigilante? U make the call."

There's absolutely no way he could be classified as a vigilante. With weapons already displayed, the bad guys instantly escalated the situation to a possible "life or death" scenario. The Marine only equaled their show of force and made sure it was "his life and their death".

As for Mrs. Jones; She's quite right...God, in fact, has already served His justice.

"No True Bill"

dawnpiazza2 read my blog view my photos
Jun 29, 2007 | 9:55 PM

I think that death and killing is a bad thing all around... but -

KUDOS to the Marines - once again!!!!!!!

ms. rosa jones needs to understand that God "just" did... "serve" up HIS justice.

HE sets kings and leaders in power... there in FL they say "it's okay" to defend when being attacked...
that is the justice Gadson's grandmother was "asking" for... and GOD provided it.

Shall we thank HIM?
I do.

... and i also pray for the pain, shame, suffering, and sorrow of LOSS that Gadson's family (mrs. jones, etc.) surely is experiencing.

I am not HAPPY for anyone's death.
I am thankful for the quick, due justice.


Second time in a week that these "ol'-timer" Marines are kickin' some butt!
too cool!

An EXPERT in Not-A-Lot, but this is just what I think!

- D -

C_O_Kay read my blog view my photos
Jun 30, 2007 | 12:18 AM

I agree with Keller.
No Bill
If two men came into the place I was eating and brandished firearms and then began ushering me into a bathroom. It has become Life and Death to me. I have a right to protect my life.

C_O_Kay read my blog view my photos
Jun 30, 2007 | 12:20 AM

Sorry. Hi Hershel, I did not even notice that this was a blog you wrote. I wrote a blog to you and a couple other bloggers about religion and faith. Its good to see you.
Kay

TheOpinionsOfMrJones read my blog
Jun 30, 2007 | 3:43 AM

A hero he is. Go to Dictionary.com and see if his pic is there.

Only those that are blinded by their own selfishness will fault others because of their own negligence. In the case of the mother who blames firefighters for the death of her son. Why would you let a kid, who can't swim, play near a water-logged creek? When would your parental skills kick in during an already adverse situation? If he didn't protect himself, as the law so grants him to, they would keep robbing, if not becoming more brazen over time. But even if police caught them as opposed to this Marine shooting them, the grandmother would probably ask why her babies are in jail. Whether the Marine or the cops intervened, she probably could not find fault with her babies; only those who sought to apprehend her precious ones.

Justice? Indeed.

Onyx read my blog view my photos
Jun 30, 2007 | 9:14 AM

Justice.

That's all there is to it.

Justice.

People are sick and tired of being victimized by scum. I would have done the same thing to protect my life. Jones need to realize that if her grandson had not set out to victimize and terrorize innocent people, he would be alive today.

Since he chose to live by the sword...

He died by it.

No bill.

Rodney read my blog view my photos
Jun 30, 2007 | 12:04 PM

He is a HERO, plain and simple. Heck the owner should let him eat free the rest of his life.

Lives was saved that day. The scum received exactly what they wanted.

Marks read my blog view my photos
Jun 30, 2007 | 3:07 PM

Agreed. He had no alternative other than what he did.

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Herschel

Dallas, (75287) by way of Waterproof, LA (71375). 10-year Army vet. 10 years in corporate America. Husband, Father, Son, Christian, Part-Time Comedian.

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