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by TellItToTim from Dallas, TX

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Texas is one of 28 states that does not share information on mentally ill people with the FBI.  We do not report to the National Instant Criminal Background Check system when someone is judged mentally ill.

Thus, someone who has been committed to a mental hospital or who is under the care of a psychiatrist for serious mental disorders, is not automatically disqualified from buying a gun.

The system is hardly perfect (Virginia is one of the states that DOES share the information with the feds. The Virginia Tech killer slipped through a legal loophole.)

Participation in the system is voluntary for the states. There is legislation pending in Congress that would, if passed and signed by the President, make it mandatory. The NRA even backs this bill.

In the meantime, some governors have issued executive orders requiring the information be shared with the FBI.  If you have an opinion, here's how to contact Governor Rick Perry:

Citizen's Opinion Hotline: (800) 252-9600
Mailing Address :

Office of the Governor
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711-2428

And here's the link to the e-mail form to send him a note.

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alicek read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 7:04 PM

Tim,

If your wife was treated for post-partum depression six years ago, it's not anyone's business except hers. Not her employer's. Not her neighbor's. And certainly not Fred the Gun Dealer's who sells at the county gun shows.

C_O_Kay read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 8:04 PM

I can understand what you are both writing.
Alice, post partum, I agree this is a minor "depressive situation that is not a personality disorder or anti-social situation. A person that has been dx with schizophrenia owning a weapon is what gets officer(like the ones I just recently attended funeral for) shot.
There is a level we have to say no more. I do not know your friend but I would dare say that her Rx was not near the intensity of that of a schizophrenic. Their medication has severely adverse effects when stopped cold turkey and this is a likelihood when they feel better.
Just saying Tim has a point but it does need to be on a certain level. Just like class C, class B, class A misdemeanors.

cowboyswife58 read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 8:22 PM

I agree with Kay. We have a neighbor that lives behind us and we found out that he is bi-polar,how we found it ? He was in the back yard screaming at my hubby here in the house one day,just out of the blue. Hubby went out to see what the deal was and the guy starts yelling all kinds of obscenities about me (I had never met the guy).Any ways long story short- when the police arrived the guy was in his living room w/a gun in his mouth ready to shoot!They took him in for awhile and told us that he had several guns in the house and for us to be careful.He was off his meds and boozing it up.We have guns also but holy macanoli...when theres guys like that out there that can have them..thats scary.

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 9:03 PM

Here's the deal on this. A "mental" person can and will obtain a weapon with or without a legal means.

alicek read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 9:06 PM

I agree there are certainly different 'levels' of mental illness, but it's impractical to think the state can "label" people. (extreme cases, probably, but the Virginia Tech guy would have passed because he wasn't treated, right?) There's also the issue of privacy, and with HIPPA laws, that won't change any time soon.

Besides (said the devil's advocate), you could also say a diabetic who accidentally took too much insulin is a danger to you family. What if a driver in the next lane had these symptoms: Fast breathing, fast pulse, dizziness, weakness, change in the level of consciousness, vision difficulties, sweating, headache, numb hands or feet?

Better put a big red flag on their car.

hillsborohillbilly read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 9:22 PM

I've never been "judged " mentally ill. but obviously I have some kind of mental defect, my hobby is blogging and I'm skating on the wrong side of the ice. I'm a few beers short of a six pack , my clock doesn't have all it's numbers ...........

AND , I own a gun

2tickets2paradise read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 9:29 PM

Well unfortunately I have had to deal with my husbands brother who was mentally ill, paranoid schizophrenic with pryomaniac tendacies. The mental health system protects these people, there is little anyone can do to keep them locked up in an institution or off the streets. It was very frustrating as a family when we would get late night telephone calls of something he had done, the first thing people would say "why hasn't his family done something about it"... the truth is, you can't. It doesn't surprise me that they are not in the gun system, my brother in law had a gun which made him twice as dangerous. No matter what he did (which included arson, theft of a new vehicle, breaking & entering) he was let go because of his illness. I believe in a patience privacy to a point, but when you have a person, such as my brother in law who is a danger to society, his condition needs to be disclosed.

2tickets2paradise read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 9:31 PM

Well unfortunately I have had to deal with my husbands brother who was mentally ill, paranoid schizophrenic with pryomaniac tendacies. The mental health system protects these people, there is little anyone can do to keep them locked up in an institution or off the streets. It was very frustrating as a family when we would get late night telephone calls of something he had done, the first thing people would say "why hasn't his family done something about it"... the truth is, you can't. It doesn't surprise me that they are not in the gun system, my brother in law had a gun which made him twice as dangerous. No matter what he did (which included arson, theft of a new vehicle, breaking & entering) he was let go because of his illness. I believe in a patients privacy to a point, but when you have a person, such as my brother in law who is a danger to society, his condition needs to be disclosed.

UCantHandleThisTruth read my blog
Jul 12, 2007 | 9:31 PM

Well look at the mental cases writing the laws
'nuff said

TexasTruBlu read my blog view my photos
Jul 12, 2007 | 10:31 PM

When the social dogooders went to court causing many of the mental institutions to close down is when we began seeing seriously impaired adults living under bridges. If you talk to police officers about dealing with the homeless, most of them are addictive personalities with the added fillip of mental illness. Not all are mentally ill, but enough are that they are a danger to themselves and to others. It used to be much easier for a family to have a member involuntarily committed for mental disorders, now they have to actually inflict damage before family court can take action. And this is what the typical liberal stance about life reveals, they win their cases, pat themselves on the back with the idea that mentally ill people will be just like you and me and take their meds and then they walk away from the problem leaving it for families, neighbors and the police to handle.

outspoken1 read my blog
Jul 12, 2007 | 11:35 PM

It might surprise all of you just how many Police Officers, Firefighters, Medics, and even Doctors are on anti-drepressants. It is a larger percent than you can imagine.

Todays high stress jobs can really take a toll on mental health. Just make sure that the agency or law makers declaring people mentally incompetent to own guns, are capable of knowing the difference between a person with a little depressive disorder and a full fledged schizophrenic suicidal maniac.

The severity of a persons mental health is very difficult determine and to measure. So becareful what you ask for Tim. You might be on happy meds one day, just to deal with those gory news reports one day.

I think I'm having a mood swing myself right now, just thinking about all this. :)

Will_M read my blog
Jul 13, 2007 | 12:53 AM

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. But guns help people kill people. People who are absolutely off their nut don't need guns. And if you can't figure out why, then you need to check in to the funny farm.

MartinR read my blog view my photos
Jul 13, 2007 | 8:47 AM

Yeah that is ridiculous, that important information should be shared with the FBI and come up in the system and to prevent or make it hard for them to purchase weapons. And what happened at Virginia Tech should of never happened, there were signs that teachers did not pick up on or act on. 2 or some odd hours later he then strikes again, which therefore is the fault of VT campus security. Why whould you not put the campus on lockdown?

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