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Putin has ordered HIS troops to kill any remaining Georgians in Gori.  To make things more interesting the troops were telling people they would have to ask the US for help because if they didn't leave they would be killed.  If I hear one more person say that we are no better than Russia, so help me I will throw a rock at their head.  I was a catcher.  It will hurt.

The question is, how do we help?  We are dropping food and supplies but they won't do any good if everyone is dead.  Russia may be forcing our hand - let's just hope we aren't the Paper Tiger they think we are.  Toughen up people, this is going to get worse before it gets better.  Abandoning countries we have helped (like Georgia) is how we create little Osama Bin Ladens.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/
article4553499.ece

'Putin has given us an order that everyone must leave or be shot' Tony Halpin in Gori

“The soldiers told us they had an order from Putin - leave or be killed.” Manana Dioshvili showed no emotion as she described how Russian troops forced her to flee her home. Her former neighbours nodded in agreement, huddled together in a kindergarten whose windows had been blown out by a Russian bomb.

“That's how they explained themselves to us,” she recalled of the moment they fled the ethnic Georgian village of Kurta, near the capital of South Ossetia, Tskhinvali.

“They said, ‘Putin has given us an order that everyone must be either shot or forced to leave'. They told us we should ask the Americans for help now because they would kill us if we stayed.”

Vardo Babutidze, 79, was not lucky enough to be visited by Russian soldiers. Her husband Georgi, 85, was shot twice through the chest by an Ossetian paramilitary who came to their house to demand weapons.

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“We didn't have any guns, so he shot Georgi in front of me without saying a word,” she said. “A neighbour helped me to bury him in our garden and then I just fled.”

Manana Galigashvili, 53, whose husband Andrei stared vacantly from a bed behind her, said that Ossetian soldiers had returned later and torched the house. They, too, had left after a soldier threatened to slit their throats.

Frightened refugees told similar stories all over the city of Gori yesterday as the Russian army extended its reach deep into Georgian territory despite a ceasefire agreement signed by President Medvedev that requires them to withdraw.

Troops and tanks moved to within 25 miles (40km) of the capital, Tbilisi, setting up roadblocks and digging in defensive positions in the hills above the highway. A line of tanks faced towards Tbilisi outside the village of Kaspi, a day after soldiers had blown up the railway line linking the capital to Georgia's main port of Poti.

Six Russian checkpoints have been set up on the road from Tbilisi to Gori, starting at the village of Igoeti, the closest to the capital that occupying troops have been since the conflict started on August 7. Troops searched the few cars that were allowed on to the road by Georgian police, who blocked the highway three miles away and fumed at the latest indignity heaped upon them by the Russians.

The heavy military presence all along the route offered no indication that Russian forces were preparing to comply with President Medvedev's promise by withdrawing today. However, convoys of aid from the International Red Cross and the United Nations High Commission for Refugees were allowed to travel into Gori.

Alexander Lomaia, Georgia's National Security Council secretary, stood in the shadow of Stalin's statue in Gori's main square and admitted that he had no idea when or if the Russians would go. He said he had been unable even to obtain assurances that they would not enter Tbilisi, a prospect that has left many Georgians in a state of panic.

“If they are not staying here, why did they blow up our TV centre and bring their transmitters to broadcast their own TV and radio? It looks very suspicious,” he said. “It is a matter of fact that they have expanded geographically since yesterday.

“We feel legally bound to the commitment to cease fire that we have made but it looks like they don't feel committed to this agreement. After the ceasefire, they exploded the bridge and went deeper into our territory ... they have cut the country in two.”

The regional governor, Lado Vardzelashvili, has returned to Gori but the Russians still refuse to allow Georgian police into the city.

Mr Lomaia said: “We have two options - either we attack them to get into the city or obey the rules that they impose ... They say that the moment they see any Georgian police cars in the city they will shoot.”

Although many buildings in the main square have suffered bomb damage Gori remains largely intact, contrary to Georgian government claims that it had been destroyed. But food supplies are running low.

Behind the shattered glass walls of Gori's “Complex Sports School”, refugees screamed and jostled each other as local officials tried to distribute boxes of food supplied by the Turkish Red Crescent. Each box contained packets of flour, rice, beans and pasta.

Outside, a group of women complained that profiteers had been selling aid. Nana Piekrishvili said: “They organise lines and tell us to come at a particular time but then they have nothing to give us. There are men walking away with aid boxes and we get nothing. They are also coming to people's homes and looking for humanitarian aid to take back so that they can start selling it on the streets.”

Despite refusing to allow Georgian police into Gori, there were few Russian troops visible inside the city, though tanks blocked a road about 500 metres from the main square.

Locals said that the army had withdrawn to the outskirts of Gori but patrolled the streets in armoured vehicles at night and had imposed a 10pm curfew. Everyone is now waiting to see if the Russians will leave.

Mr Lomaia seemed highly sceptical. He said: “I think they will ask for some concessions and will be bargaining hard. That's why they are taking as many places as they can now.”

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scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 10:06 AM

I am not surprised whatsoever by this, TI. In light of what you and I have discussed vis-a-vis Russia's plans for the future, this falls right in line.

I watched a special about Russia last night and was intrigued by how the KGBesque nature of Russia has returned. Did you know that Putin makes 40 Billion a year?

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 10:16 AM

I don't doubt it, scotty. Putin put in a puppet president and made himself Prime Minister for life.

I'm so glad Poland signed on for the missile shield. Hopefully this will be a wakeup call for freedom loving people. I just hope that President Bush figures this out. If it is left up to Obama we will be a joke in the eyes of the Russians. McCain seems to be on the right side of this one.

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 10:20 AM

I honestly don't put much hope in the status of the world even 5 years from now. I'm an optimist by nature, but also a realist.

The world is becoming full of rogues hellbent on evil. That does not bode well for the populace in light of the amount of chemical and nuclear capabilities already at hand.

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 10:33 AM

Have you read The Apocalypse Code by Hal Lindsay? I may need to re-read...

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 11:20 AM

Well, as much as I like Hal, he's a sensationalist. I tend to read more conservative preachers/teachers. Hal is a very interesting dude though. And he presents a lot of truth.

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 11:36 AM

True true. Who do you prefer to get your Revelations interpretations from?

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 11:48 AM

http://www.dts.edu/media/publications/bibliothecasacra/

ONELANGUAGE read my blog
Aug 18, 2008 | 11:54 AM

wELL WE CAN'T GO HELP BECAUSE OF THE IDIOT LIBERALS WHO SAY OH IT WILL GET BETTER,

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 11:56 AM

We can't go help because it will recognize the unholy alliance between Iran and Russia.

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 11:59 AM

And TI has got it spot on. That situation brewing is only getting stronger, more defiant and more dangerous to the existence of the world as we know it.

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 12:10 PM

We should start brushing up on our Russian..

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 12:33 PM

I don't plan on being around when that time comes, TI. lol

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 12:35 PM

Oh I see where you're going with that haha! I don't plan on it either!

Proud_Mexicana read my blog
Aug 18, 2008 | 12:56 PM

Who cares about a country a million miles away?

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 2:18 PM

PM, your ignorance is only exceeded by your abject racism.

You are the weakest link, goodbye!

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Aug 18, 2008 | 3:34 PM

Thanks for getting that one scotty. What a little toad.

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