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George of the Bungle


Ex-spokesman faults Bush for withholding facts

By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer 11 minutes ago

Former presidential spokesman Scott McClellan on Friday said President Bush has lost the public's trust by failing to open up about his administration's mistakes and backtracking on a promise to tell all about the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity.

"This White House promised or assured the American people that at some point when this was behind us they would talk publicly about it. And they have refused to," McClellan told the House Judiciary Committee. "And that's why I think more than any other reason we are here today and the suspicion still remains."

The former White House press secretary suggested that Bush could do much to redeem his credibility on the Plame matter and his reasons for going to war in Iraq if he would embrace "openness and candor and then constantly strive to build trust across the aisle."

"This is a very secretive White House," McClellan said. "There's some things that they would prefer not to be talked about."

The White House was dismissive of the event and McClellan himself. Presidential spokesman Tony Fratto disputed McClellan's assertion that that Plame matter concluded with the conviction of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, citing an ongoing lawsuit by Plame and her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, against current and former administration officials.

"The White House has the consistent position that we would refrain from comment while there was ongoing litigation," Fratto said. "Scott must have forgotten the policy he repeatedly stated from the podium."

McClellan cites other examples of Bush's lack of candor, including what he called the "packaging" of intelligence to justify the Iraq war and the president's handling of allegations that many years ago he used cocaine.

In his recently released book, "What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception," McClellan recounts overhearing Bush on the telephone telling a supporter that "I honestly don't remember whether I tried it or not."

McClellan called that kind of response to sensitive questions by Bush and other politicians "essentially evasion."

"That (approach) later transferred over to issues of policy," McClellan said. "It tells something about his character."

Bush's spokesman from 2003-2006, McClellan said that former White House Chief of Staff Andy Card told him that the president and vice president wanted him to publicly say that Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff at the time, was not involved in the leak.

"I was reluctant to do it," McClellan said. "I got on the phone with Scooter Libby and asked him point-blank, 'Were you involved in this in any way?' And he assured me in unequivocal terms that he was not."

In fact, both Libby and former presidential adviser Karl Rove had discussed Plame's identity with reporters. Libby resigned from office the day he was indicted on charges of covering up the leak. Rove remained, eventually leaving office in August 2007. Rove has never been charged in the case.

Plame maintains the White House quietly outed her to reporters as retribution for criticism from her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, of Bush's reasons for going to war in Iraq.

Last July, Bush commuted Libby's 2 1/2-year sentence, sparing him from serving any prison time. "It was special treatment," McClellan said of the commutation.

McClellan told the House Judiciary Committee that he doesn't know if a crime was committed and does not believe that Bush knew about or directed the leak. When asked about Cheney, he replied: "I do not know. There's a lot of suspicion there."

Bush backtracked on his promise of accountability in the Plame matter, McClellan said.

The White House had said in 2003 that anyone who leaked classified information in the case would be dismissed. Bush reiterated that promise in June 2004.

By July 2005, Bush qualified his position, saying he would fire anyone for leaking classified information if that person had "committed a crime." He then commuted Libby's sentence.

McClellan said the White House helped the Justice Department investigate the leak, but he knew of no internal White House probe to ferret out and fire the leaker.

"I certainly think that the president should have stuck by his word on the matter, and I certainly view the commutation as it was special treatment," McClellan said. "It does undermine our system of justice."

Republicans cast his testimony as old news. Ranking Republican Lamar Smith of Texas questioned the impartiality of McClellan's publisher and said that whatever McClellan had been instructed to say about the Plame affair was typical work of the White House press office.

"It should be of no surprise that there was spin in the White House Press Office," said Smith. "What White House has not had a communications operation that advocates for its policies? Any recent administration that did not try to promote its priorities should be cited for dereliction of duty."

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dprin339 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 6:29 PM

casey, i gotta tell you that picture on the top is very funny thanks for the laugh!

Hacksaw read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 7:09 PM

It’s kinda odd how Scott McClellan’s story slightly changed once he was put under oath….I wonder why that was?

McClellan now admits that this Administration did not deceive the American public in any way leading up to the Iraq War, only that they sought to “make the strongest case possible” to the American people….something that every single Presidential Administration in our country’s history that has ever even considered sending American troops into combat has done.

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 8:35 PM

ya i saw that too today........hmmmmm when the pressure's on, a coward WILL fold. and besides, there was no cash in this for him.

hey! where ya been hacksaw? good to see you again

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 8:50 PM

Hacksaw ! Where Ya`been ? We missed you here.

"McClellan cites other examples of Bush's lack of candor, including what he called the "packaging" of intelligence to justify the Iraq war."

I really don`t see where this is backing off of the claim that Bush manipulated information to take us to war.

So, how ya` been ? Did you need a vacation from us knuckle heads, or what ? .........LOL !

Kalayna read my blog
Jun 21, 2008 | 7:32 AM

scott mcclennen is a slug, and needs a job. I just don't get why they are making so much of this story. Valerie Plane and her husband were living a champaine life style on a beer budget. There were telling people they were someone they wern't.
Bush and Cheney are on the way out, so drop it, lets concentrate of our future and getting things done

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
Jun 21, 2008 | 7:39 AM

kalayna, casey will NEVER get over it!

20 years from now he will still be screaming about Bush & Cheney.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Jun 21, 2008 | 9:37 AM

"scott mcclennen is a slug, and needs a job. I just don't get why they are making so much of this story." - kalayna

Scott McClellan had a conscience that kicked in, unlike most of Dubya`s motley crew.

"Valerie Plane and her husband were living a champaine life style on a beer budget. There were telling people they were someone they wern't." - kalayna

That`s immaterial. What`s the subject here is Bush`s word on how this would be dealt with, and what he ACTUALLY did about it. Further proof that he speaks with a forked tongue.

Hacksaw read my blog view my photos
Jun 21, 2008 | 8:24 PM

I did a little traveling, and when I do that I only get online to check my e-mail and not much more.

BTW Casey, Scott McClellan didn’t a conscience that suddenly kicked in….he was fired in 2006 for being a wimp as a WH Press Secretary, and for his severe lack of knowledge on most issues, so he waits for 2 years until the middle of a Presidential election year to release his book and to claim that he opposed most of Bush’s policies all along, the very same thing he criticized Richard Clarke for doing back in 2004.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Jun 21, 2008 | 8:57 PM

"BTW Casey, Scott McClellan didn’t a conscience that suddenly kicked in….he was fired in 2006 for being a wimp as a WH Press Secretary, and for his severe lack of knowledge on most issues - hacksaw

Is this factual or speculation ? Did his knowledge of most issues depend on what was provided him by the White House ? Was he treated like the public and deprived of information ? Or did he pass along information provided him by the White House knowing it was NOT the truth ?

superbrowns read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 4:50 AM

In time I think everybody will fall on this "Bush was bad" band wagon, they will write a book, be paid for public appearances and make alot of money for their lies.

We will never know the truth about any of this, we will only believe what we want to, for our own sanity.
I feel President Bush got his information from a flawed security system, all of our law enforcement agencies think they are better then the others, they withhold information from each other, so who is really at falt here.
I still believe Saddam had something to do with 9/11 and to protect the informants we will never know.

There will be one fact on election day, and that is our vote still doesn't matter...

superbrowns read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 4:54 AM

If the FBI and the CIA would have followed up on their leads we wouldn't be in this mess, and that is fact.
All this stuff was reported to them yet they failed us, they put all of us in harms way because of their ego's.

superbrowns read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 4:55 AM

Casey did you buy his book and read it????

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 6:39 AM

hmmm casey, seems that's it's OKAY for mcclellan to act upon ONLY information given him whether is was factual or not, complete or not. you seem to endorse that excuse for HIM.

but yet, when it comes to Bush & Cheney, they acted on information given to THEM on Iraq (whether it was true or not, they did BELIEVED it, so did congress) they become liars & manipulators of worst sort.

so McClellan can be excused for acting upon mis-information but Bush & Cheney can't?

btw hacksaw, did you see my post a few weeks back? his book & all the money behind it is none other that George Soros! and according to many other reports about this, MOST of the book was written by his editor, not him.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 9:12 AM

"but yet, when it comes to Bush & Cheney, they acted on information given to THEM on Iraq (whether it was true or not, they did BELIEVED it, so did congress) they become liars & manipulators of worst sort." - dprin

All available information is given to the president and vice-president. What he then DECIDES he wants to release to congress and the public takes place. Only information supporting the case for war was released. Information casting doubt on the case for war was with-held. Thus, the manipulation of intelligence resulting in war.

No,Captain...I haven`t bought the book yet. I was hoping the princess would send me her` copy after she was through reading it......LOL !

"If the FBI and the CIA would have followed up on their leads we wouldn't be in this mess, and that is fact.
All this stuff was reported to them yet they failed us, they put all of us in harms way because of their ego's." - super

I believe that they were duty-bound to report this to the president, and did. From this point the manipulation took place - (see above response to the princess).

superbrowns read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 2:36 PM

The reports came out on guys wanting to be showen how to fly but not how to take off or land, The owner of the school reported it but the FBI didn't seem to think anything was wrong, this was plastered all over the news, I'm going to see if I can find a news source for this BRB, It may take awhile.

I not talking about going to war I'm talking about before 9/11 happened.

hdrider read my blog
Jun 22, 2008 | 2:48 PM

I see that the SHOCK TREATMENT didn't work Casey. You are still in the Purple Haze. I wish they could put you under oath, then send you to Gitmo with the rest of you're friends. Those already there. You hate the US and it's leaders so much. I thought the DEMORATS were going to fix everything. You are a work of art.

Hacksaw read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 8:03 PM

“Is this factual or speculation ? Did his knowledge of most issues depend on what was provided him by the White House ? Was he treated like the public and deprived of information ? Or did he pass along information provided him by the White House knowing it was NOT the truth ?” - caseyjones38

It’s fact, he was dismissed for not bringing anything to the table, and his successor Tony Snow was far superior. Both Ari Fleischer & Mary Matalin confirm that McClellan was asked to leave the White House as he was not contributing to policy discussions. Reporters like Brit Hume recall interviewing him while conducting research for upcoming news reports, only to learn that they knew more about the subject at hand than McClellan did…his not knowing too much was bad enough, but he didn’t even try to learn which is why he was eventually dismissed, a couple years too late as it turns out….

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 10:37 PM

Ari Fleischer - he joined George W. Bush's presidential campaign after Mrs. Dole dropped out of the race. When Mr. Bush became the President in 2001, he tapped Fleischer to become his press secretary. On May 19, 2003, he announced that he would resign during the summer, citing a desire to spend more time with his wife and to work in the private sector. He was replaced by deputy press secretary Scott McClellan on July 15, 2003.
He is on the board of the Republican Jewish Coalition

Mary Matalin - In 1992, President Bush named her the deputy campaign manager for political operations. As deputy campaign manager, she was responsible for the overview and organization of all 50 state operations. As the on-board planner who traveled with President Bush throughout the 1992 campaign, she emerged as the vocal, and occasionally controversial, defender of the president and his policies.

Mary Matalin now runs Threshold, a new conservative publishing imprint at Simon & Schuster.

I really would not claim these two "Bushwhackers" as unbiased information sources.......SORRY !

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
Jun 22, 2008 | 10:44 PM

I also see that hydrider has crawled out from under his` rock again. Working his mouth with nothing constructive to say. HYDRIDER ! Engage brain, (if you have one) before putting mouth in gear. - GET A LIFE !!!!!!!

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
Jun 23, 2008 | 8:24 AM

ya know casey, putting all your eggs in mcclellan's basket will most likely end with egg yolk on your face.

there is so much speculation that he's lying, he's paid off, he's just a waste of human flesh that you should probably think about who & what you are endorsing. the main problem is the money behind the "book"..........george soros. also, think about it, he is now in george soros pocket, is he REALLY going to say anything to congress that his master hasn't approved?

i know you WANT to believe this crap so badly that it seems like a dream come true for you! this guy is NOT credible, nor will he EVER be. If he really had something to say that was so crucial, so controversial that the people HAVE to know.......he would NOT have done it THIS way!

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I am 70 yrs. old and I have never seen our country in such dire straits as it is today. I was born in W.Va., Grew up in Pa. with Bobby Vinton, and ended up in Oh. Back then, when you graduated from high school in W.Va.,Pa.,or Ky., you received a diploma and a road map to Ohio. I grew up in the 50`s and 60`s, so I know what really good times in our` country were. GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN !

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