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Hey yall.
It's been a while.

Anyhoo, so I read this story today and I started thinking about deer hunting in general and how this applies to the concept.

I grew up in a small town in "The Heart of Texas" called Brady.
This is smack dab in the middle of deer hunting country so I have literally been around it all my life. I have absolutely no problem with culling deer because if you have ever spent any time down in that area then you know there are WAAAAY too many of them. I have been in a truck or car that has hit a deer 3 times and I had several friends wreck, get hurt and even die from deer overcrowding.

Take a stroll down Highy 377 South some time and breathe in the roadside carnage.
Its kind of hard to miss.


Anyway, speaking as someone that has been around this and eaten tons of deer meat myself... I hope you can understand that I am not a vegetarian or a member of PETA or anything... but I have to make some comments...


First off, this person that killed this tame deer is pathetic... but most hunters are actually. These deer that we have down in Brady are all tame. They are fed year round by the ranchers that want to rent out their property to city folk and they get used to people pretty much from the day they are born. That is why there are so many of them dead on the road side. That's also why they would wander into my high school and hang out on our football field back when I lived there.

Most "hunters" are actually city grown BLEEP bags that decide one time a year that they want to kill something so they pay a bunch of money to rent a cabin or call up their drinkin buddies and all lease out a piece of land and then head down to bag a buck.

...and this is how they "hunt":

They stick a big lolly pop in the ground where the deer hang out or throw out some corn and then wait a few minutes until the deer come moseying on up. Then they shoot them and get the local taxidermist to stuff the piece they care about.


That is pretty much what "hunting" is in Texas.
There are a few people out there that actually do real hunting but not as many as there used to be... and they are clearly the minority.

I say this because anybody that gets all up in arms about this tame deer getting killed needs to understand that this is just how most people that "hunt" think about their hobby. They are used to killing tame deer so this is no big deal to someone like that.

Who cares as long as you get the head right?


Personally, I have never killed a deer myself... not on purpose anyway... but if I ever wanted to I would do it some place where the deer were actually wild and hunting still meant something. Maybe if we treated it like a sport again instead of a financial transaction between ranchers and city chumps then this sort of mentality wouldnt be so acceptable.

Just my two cents.

Thanks yall.
-Cy
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GUNRIGHTS read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 11:07 AM

As a hunter, I think you are very misinformed. Just because one has a feeder doesn't mean you'll actually see any deer. You may think it is easy to sit in a tree, motionless (as motionless as possible) for hours on end hoping to see a deer. I've done it and it's NOT easy. In fact I didn't get ANY deer last year and hunted almost every weekend. I think if you've never hunted, you shouldn't pass judgement on those that have...

Just MY two cents...

cyrusmartin read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 11:55 AM

Well you obviously never hunted in Brady.
=P

If I am misinformed it is because I have been lied to over and over and over by hunters and the ranchers that have taken their money.

So I guess that is possible...

-Cy

cyrusmartin read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 12:02 PM

...oh and I expect that you may find this fairly insulting but sitting in a tree or deer blinds and shooting a deer that walks in front of you after you have put out "bait" is not hunting.

I'm sorry... it's not.

I used to laugh my butt off all the time at those guys on my uncle's ranch. They would throw all kinds of stuff out and then shoot a deer that came up to graze and act like they did something worth keeping a trophy for.

Sad.

Dont get me wrong... my Dad is a bow hunter and I have been seriously considering joining him next year on his property for a couple of days in the brush.

...but seriously man... tree squatting aint the same thing. I dont care how still you sit.

-Cy

leegrimsley read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 12:11 PM

LBJ was the one who popularized deer feeders in Texas.

He used them all over the ranch so his politcal cronies could come down to the Hill Country and get a deer trophy with little effort.

Personally I am for arming the deer and teaching them to shoot back.

cyrusmartin read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 12:16 PM

LOL

Good one Lee

-Cy

Dak413 read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 12:29 PM

well, I have a different take on deer hunting, to Me there should be NO trophy hunting, any one that hunts in My opinion, that isn't hunting to eat the Meat is no hunter at all , the way I grew up hunting, if ya weren't out tromping the hills looking for your next meal, everyone used to make fun of what we called the "road hunters", and ya would get a lot of verbal abuse from it now, that is really what hunting is all about, but most "city" folk, have no idea what hunting is to a true hunter !!

GUNRIGHTS read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 1:16 PM

I like to get trophies, but I also like to eat the meat.

And, I HAVE hunted in Brady...and Coleman...and Kerrville...and Morgan Mill...and Nebraska...and Kansas...and South Dakota...

Hunting South Texas is not like anyplace I've ever hunted before. I challenge you to sit in a tree and see how quick it is before the deer notices you. There is also some skill involved in choosing a place for a stand/blind.

Those that don't hunt just don't get it. Deer are smart and not easy to shoot. Ever tried to get a gun up without the deer seeing you??? It's not easy.

I have NEVER met a deer hunter that didn't enjoy eating the meat. To make it sound like we just hunt horns and leave the deer carcass to rot is not the NORM. (oops there's that loaded "normal" phrase again). There are idiots in EVERY aspect of life...you're always quick to say not to lump everyone together...you just did...

I still say - If you've never hunted, you shouldn't pass judgement on those that do.

And Cy, hunting a game ranch is MUCH different than owning your own property and managing the deer population.

Ignorance does not look good on anyone...

cyrusmartin read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 1:37 PM

Well I understand where you are coming from. I mean I do. I have knowna lot of people that hunt like that and they have literally screamed into my face over this issue many many times.

I get it.

I dont respect it... but I get it.


Thats me.
We all grow up differently and have a different opinion of what normal is. I can understand why you and others would react so strongly to my argument... as I said... I have discussed this with a lot of other people... usually face to face...

...but I dont think you can convince me that sitting really really still in a tree with a bunch of food on the ground under you is hunting.

Thats me though.

-Cy

bilmorgbc read my blog
Nov 26, 2008 | 3:03 PM

Then does that mean that putting a minnow on a hook and putting it in the water is not fishing? What ever the hunt is for it involves a certain amount of ability to get the prey into the sites. When I was young we hunted wolves for bounty. We used every trick we could to get them.

cyrusmartin read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 3:13 PM

Fishing is getting fish. Nobody ever claims to ahve hunted them. You go to the water and you try to get you some fish. No big deal there. No big accomplishment. You got you some fish. Good job.

You may mount a really big one or get a picture taken with it if it is special but you went there to catch a fish... not to do anything spectacular.

Hunting animals that are a threat to you is not about sport or trophies or eating them or anything like that. That would be about eliminating a threat. That is not something I would place anywhere near what we are talking about.

...and hunting is about HUNTING...
It's not about aiming. It's not about sitting. If those are qualifiers then just go shoot targets.

Sorry.
-Cy

cowboyswife58 read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 3:21 PM

Okay here's my two cents....I was married for awhile to a hunting guide, he would take clients out for a days hunt and they would get thier trophy kill, it was nice money I have to admit but....I couldn't stand it when it got to the point where ie. ducks were shot out of the sky just to shoot them and the meat not even eaten.If you hunt to eat, thats one thing but to just go out and slaughter just for the heck of it...NO! And then you have the big game ranches...you ever notice the fences that are up around these places? Thats to keep the game in so they can't escape! Where's the sport in that? There is BLEEP shooting for target practice! My point being...if you hunt..eat what you kill and pay attention to the limits...those fines can be hefty. And stick to wildlife...heavy on the "wild" part.If there were no hunting season the wildlife would be taking us over I agree but ........ do it with a certain sense of dignity please. Okay guys, thats all I got lol.

GUNRIGHTS read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 4:07 PM

I have to agree with Bill's point above...oh never mind...........

cowboyswife58 read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 7:27 PM

Okay...I give...why did they "BLEEP" out the word s-k-e-e-t????

bilmorgbc read my blog
Nov 26, 2008 | 8:26 PM

I was raised that there were only a few reasons to hunt,food,bounty,pelt,and varmint. I was hired once to hunt a pack of dogs that were killing sheep. If we shot anything edible it was.I never thought of it as sport. As far as my point on fishing,if you don't know where to put the line in the water,you will not catch fish. There is thought put into it besides just walking to a spot and fish,just as there is in setting up a deer blind or duck blind or any other type of stationary hunting.

KellerKowboy read my blog view my photos
Nov 26, 2008 | 9:45 PM

Some good points of contention...on several issues. I think it matters a lot WHERE you were raised as to what your attitudes and opinions might be. For instance, several of the so-called trophy hunts in Texas would get a man jailed in Maine!

Hunting over ANY kind of bait is strictly prohibited, as is feeding the wild animals prior to and during the hunting seasons. And, obviously, you won't find any 12 foot fences in the snow-covered mountains to prevent the deer from traveling.

You can locate big buck sign and track him for twenty miles and never get a glimpse of him. Or, detect a pattern in his travel and get to an opening in the big pines before he does.

That's the way I learned to hunt, and putting venison in the freezer helped us make it through many long, cold winters.

Azrael_AOD read my blog
Nov 27, 2008 | 7:16 PM

Cyrus

Blacks in Arkansas rape and beat to death a White TV news reporter and all you can do is pizz and moan about deer hunters?

You are disgusting!

dink_key view my photos
Nov 27, 2008 | 7:22 PM

Good blog Cyrus, I personally agree with you on every point you have made.

TexasTruBlu read my blog view my photos
Nov 27, 2008 | 8:03 PM

There's another side to this. Feral pigs are really tearing up rural areas of south Texas. They sometimes spread disease and they are very destructive. At times you have to remove animals that are dangerous to livestock or humans. I don't agree with trophy hunting either, mostly because those liquored up yahoos are just as likely to shoot a prize bull or a cutting horse as they are a deer. Let them roam around west of Junction or over towards Lajitas and then see what really comes up.

Marks read my blog view my photos
Nov 27, 2008 | 10:07 PM

Dink_key, I would not be able to imagine a scenario where you might possibly disagree, so why claim status quo?

cyrusmartin read my blog view my photos
Nov 28, 2008 | 9:17 AM

"Cyrus

Blacks in Arkansas rape and beat to death a White TV news reporter and all you can do is pizz and moan about deer hunters?

You are disgusting!"



This looke like one of those kind of posts somebody would make with a fake username. You trying to throw rocks and then run down the street or what? Coward.

Thats pathetic.

-Cy

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cyrusmartin

My name is Cyrus Martin. I live in Euless, Texas along with a bunch of other people. I enjoy a healthy debate now and then as well as a heated discussion. I don't enjoy to argue though and I find it absolutely beyond annoying to see people spread ignorance, hypocrisy, lies and distortions in the guise of truth or Christianity. I am a proud Christian (which is sort of an Oxymoron) and I love God very much. I think most Christians do... unfortunately there are many that will use his name to promote a twisted and evil agenda and guilt any who would seek God's face into following them without question. For too long we have been cowed by this tyrannical Christian terrorism. One of the purposes of my life to help bring this into the light. If we are Christians then we should think about what that means and the responsibility that comes along with that comfortable label. Thanks! I hope we will have some great talks. -Cy

Member Since: 2/19/2007