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...but they do show how far we've come as women

 

"The Catholic Encyclopedia declares, 'The female sex is in some respects inferior to the male sex, both as regards body and soul.'  This is a somewhat modified version of the opinion of St. Thomas Aquinas, who insisted that every woman is birth-defective, an imperfect male begotten because her father happened to be ill, weakened, or in a state  of sin at the time of her conception."

"Christianity was the first religion to announce that it was sinful just to be alive, on account of having been sexually conceived and born of a woman."

"Martin Luther claimed the physical differences between me and women demonstrated God's plan for sexism.  'Men have broad and large chests and small, narrow hips and more understanding than women who have but small, narrow chests and broad hips, to the end that they should remain at home, sit still, keep house and bear and bring up children.  If women get tired and die of bearing, there is no harm in that; let them die as long as they bear; they were made for that."

"A self-perpetuating belief in woman's inferior intellect was fostered by the almost universal custom of keeping women out of schools, all but a few aristocratic ladies who could receive an expensive private education.  Queen Elizabeth I of England was unsexed by several historians who thought she was too clever to be female.  They claimed she died in infancy, and a boy was secretly raised in her place.  The small minority of educated women were seldom accepted as such.  On one occasion a learned lady was presented as a curiousity to King James I, and he was told she was fluent in Latin, Greek, and Hebrew.  He only inquired, 'but can she spin?'"

"St. Columkille made a rule that no woman could even be buried in the vicinity of a Christian church, alleging that this was the custom from Chrisianity's beginnings."

"IN 1855, a Mrs. Caroline Norton left her husband after he repeatedly subjected her to beatings, mental abuse, and infidelity.  He kept his mistress in the same house with her.  A court ruled that the wife need not return to the house, but the husband was given their three children because the wife had 'condoned his actions' by staying with him through the cruelties.  In 1839, the Infants' Custody Act introduced a slight modification.  At his own discretion, a judge in equity could allow separated mothers to keep children under seven years of age, or to have visiting rights to older children, provided the mother was not guilty of adultery.  Fathers suffered no such restriction, of course."

"In the Christian view, woman brought death into the world and sex perpetuated it.  It was claimed that Adam was made to be immortal, but he lost both his innocence and his immortality when Even taught him about sex.  All women were copies of Eve, her very existence bringing destruction to God's image, man.  Women were dangerous even when dead.  An early church edict ordered that a male corpse must not be buried next to a female corpse until the latter was safely decomposed."

"The 20th century was not much more enlightened than the 19th.  Stall's marriage manual, the ultimate authority at the turn of the century, blamed women themselves for the seuxal ignorance society imposed on them.  If a wife failed to understand her husband's sexual needs, she was to blame 'for her lack of knowledge and consideration.'  But men's lack of knowledge and consideration was part of the culture."

"Male 'delicacy' even dictated that books of male and female authors must be kept on separate bookshelves unless the authors 'happen to be married.'"

"A standard Christian work on sex dedicated to Cardinal d'Este, Sinibaldi's 17th-century Geneanthropeia, said no woman could conceive if she enjoyed sex.  Before the turn of the last century, it was expected that 'good' women would know nothing of sexual pleasure.  If they showed an inclination to learn, they might be cruelly teased.  Thomas Branagan's advice to young men  was to test the virtue of a fiancee by trying to seduce her, to make sure she would react with 'becoming abhorrence.' If she seemed too compliant, she must be jilted."

"Syrian churches ruled that no person could become Christian except celibate men, and no man who had ever been married could be baptized.  Saturninus said God made only two kinds of people, good men and evil women.  Marriage perpetuated the deviltry of women, who dominated men through the magic of sex.  Centuries later, St. Bernard still proclaimed that it was easier for a man to bring the dead back to life than to live with a woman without endangering his soul."

"There was no Christina sacrament of marraige until the 16th century.  Catholic scholars say the wedding ceremony was 'imposed on' a reluctant church, and 'nothing is more remarkable than the tardiness with which liturgical forms for the marriage ceremony were evolved.'  It is perhaps not remarkable to find that htese liturgical forms were not evolved by the church at all, but borrowed from pagans' common law."

"Aristotle taught that a husband should be more than twice his bride's age -he 37, she 18 - so he could dominate her."

"Medieval folk tales convey a distinct impression that the Christian God opposed marrage.  One story said a pure youth and maiden agreed never to marry, 'for the love of God.'  But their heathen parents forced them into a wedding.  By God's grace, the ground opened under their feet and swallowed them before they could spoil their virginity.  A priest who dared officate at the wedding was found dead the next day.  Another young couple eloped, being forced to defy God, who 'did not sanction earthly marriages.' Gebhard, archbishop of Cologne, was said to have blessed married couples illegally, adn even took a wife himself.  He was exommunicated, besieged by Catholic forces in Godesberg Castle, caught, and killed.  The ruins of hsi castle are still shown today."

"When Christian authorities revised pagan marriage laws, they were primarily concerned with placing a wife's property in her husband's control and keeping it there.  Women owned the land under the pagan system, and their husbands could acquire an interest in it only through matrimony.  This system was reversed in husbands' favor.  Common-law  and Morganatic marriages were provisionally accepted by christian churches only after many restrictions had been imposed on the wife's rights of ownership and inheritance.  Christian marital morality amounted to taking the means of independenc from women and turning it over to men."

"Wife-beating was a by-product fo the Christian view of woman as man's property.  Napoleon remarked, 'Woman is given to us to bear children.  She is our property....She is our possession, as the fruit tree is that of the gardener.'  St. Thomas Aquinas said a wife is lower than a slave, because a slave may be freed, but 'Woman is in subjection according to the law of nature, but a slave is not.'"

 

 

---all passages taken out of The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets, written by Barbara Walker

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BDABRock read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 10:30 AM

I read your profile...and read this blog. You seem to have some problems fitting into society...and are trying hard to to let the world see just how embattled the weaker sex has been...and is? you seem to be very intelligent, and "My Own Woman"... OK...good for you. But, why do I have a feeling there is a lot of pssssing and moaning going on in your soul that you want the world to acknowledge? It would be interesting ...give a thumbnail of what your parents' views were/are.

yesican32 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 11:39 AM

i have no problem fitting into society...i am a person, and so is everyone else, therefore, i fit into society. if you mean what "genre," well, i have no problem with that either. i'm a mother, who also happens to be a student, who also happens to be an artist.

everyone has a moan in their soul. that's what makes us human, and all the more interesting.

my mother is a baptist who doesn't practice it. she believes in hard work and honesty to have a relatively good life

my father was a baptist who opposed the churchl because he feared there to be too many hypocrites there. he found his god through reading the bible and being out in nature. it was quite a treat to watch birds and other creatures come to him without fear.

does that satisfy?

RETIRED_TWO_IN_TEXAS read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 11:47 AM

Yep. I might even like you if i knew you more...it's just i'm much older..and some of our "values' are different...but...so are some of my kids' values...may be diff from mine....Ok...I commend you for nto getting twisted off at my quetions...I wish Blessings on your life.

yesican32 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 12:17 PM

being older means nothing. values are values. my partner is half my age, and while we may differ in opinions of religion, our values remain the same. but thank you, just the same

what questions are you refering to, btw?

yesican32 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 12:19 PM

or are you the same person as bdab?

chardoney read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 1:03 PM

"-all passages taken out of The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets"

MYTHS. That says it all. LOL!

hillsborohillbilly read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 1:33 PM

in theory, half of aristotle's idea would be cool, i'd like to have a wife half my age but not to dominate, you know ,as arm candy, but then again i couldn't keep up with her anyway, so the theory has some holes in it

KellerKowboy read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 2:58 PM

As part of our education, perhaps an independent review of this work is in order:

Barbara G. Walker, The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets.

"At first glance this book appears to be a work of academia, which is where part of the danger lies. In fact, this is 1000 pages of attempting to define every goddess as an aspect of the Great Goddess or Triple Goddess, every saint as a stolen pagan deity, every god as a Sacrificial King and/or patriarchy's attempt to masculine a goddess, and every biblical woman as a deliberately misrepresented matriarchal leader. Its entire motive is to promote Goddess spirituality and give men a few kicks while its at it. Walker depends heavily on painfully outdated and even discredited source materials such as works by Frazer and Graves. There may be some actual information in this book, but its so peppered with nonsense that it becomes impossible to distinguish what might actually be legitimate information."

Apparently many Wiccans strongly disagree.

KellerKowboy read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 2:59 PM

Sorry, the link to this review was not included above.

http://wicca.timerift.net/books_avoid.shtml

yesican32 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 3:18 PM

actually, a natural reading into history from several different sources will tell you that pagan deities and the like were one of the first, and most certainly before saints came to be...many people do not except this because it contradicts there idea of their own beliefs.

and if you read the book, it does not describe every biblical woman as matriarchal leader. its entire motive is to give a view of history. not everything in it is pro-women and anti-men, but it most certainly does give much focus on goddesses, simply because it is describing the pagan influence on other beliefs and society as a whole

hillsborohillbilly read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 3:45 PM

it's getting deep in here

Dalejrfan8 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 3:58 PM

I would just like to know what your point is. There is nothing wrong with being a christian or woman. What is wrong is women like you with your attitude. That sitting around and popping out babies is ok. I don't agree with some the religions, but I certainly don't condem someone for thier beliefs. I work with a very sweet lady from Ethopia whose husband thinks this very way. In fact he doesn't take care of her or thier two boys she does it by herself.
The things she tells us about her church are totally off the wall for some people. However we don't condem her for it. We love her anyway. You will never finder a kinder and more helpful person than Kidist.

UCantHandleThisTruth read my blog
Apr 22, 2007 | 5:27 PM

As "receivers" women will always be considered weaker.
Even these days, with women in CEO positions etc they are still given "hands-off " type treatment in comparison to men.
Its not even close.
Like it or not

Dalejrfan8 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 6:30 PM

On the other hand some men are egotistcal idiots

Marks read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 7:34 PM

I find your dad's point about hypocrites and reading the Bible for yourself spot-on. Nobody should ever follow blindly...

As for the rest, who cares? Last I checked, my wife continues to do well in fields I cannot, just as I excell in arenas she cannot. If there are people out there who insist that woman = lower class citizen, then it is their fault. Ignorance will always maintain a presence in some percentage of the population.

Just be happy you live in the Liberal Christian West, as opposed to the Mullah-dominated Mideast, where ignorance is spelled out within their Holy Book, not to mention certain 'medical' practices involving feminine mutilation.

ProudAmerican read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 7:38 PM

The reason men were made broder at the shoulders was for the purpose of work, women were made broader at the hips for the purpose of bithing.

There fore a woman is weaker in upper body strenght and always will be.

1/2 your age? You must have a teaching certificate.

GratefulGrace read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 8:02 PM

Um guys??? This is from a Wiccan.


Let it go.

BDABRock read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 8:11 PM

my question relates to what is going on in your deeper self to cause you to put up the encyclopedia of the historical things...which to me sort of plays to the verse that women have always been presented the low-life....and that men were always in control and caused this to happen...ok...so WHAT IF it is true? so what? it is not true TODAY...in America...I hope...at least YOU seem to have it under control...according to what you shared in your bio and such. The things you put out there in your bio makes one think that you are an "independent woman"...and that you are damn well going to do things your way...so, I think my asking you what is going on is valid. Your question as to bdab and retired two...being the same...yes, actually...my wife is retired two and I am bdab...we use the same computer...sorry ..sometimes we switch on...and inadvertantly may be already logged on to the other's handle.

yesican32 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 8:17 PM

wow...

this blog was just me responding to how much women have changed, how much we have grown accepted by others, how much others have learned about our "medical conditions." that's really all my point was. i thought these were insane..and am proud and glad that i am able to have a voice as a woman today...

so basically..chill

yesican32 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2007 | 8:19 PM

i'm sorry...i didn't write that correctly..i meant that i am half my lover's age...

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I consider myself an artist...I find my faith in nature...and I express my life through words on paper. I have a three-year-old daughter who is everything to me, and I am in a long-term relationship with a wonderful partner. That's really all you need to know right now.

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