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question for mothers!
Apr 30, 2007 | 4:10 PM
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Actually, it's more so for mothers who have given birth via c-section and have had a vbac with other children after that.

My first child was difficult to deliver, as I had high blood pressure, my heart was racing, and she just did NOT want to come out at all.  I finally had a c-section.  I am now in the process of trying to become pregnant again, and I'm getting more and more nervous.

I've been reading lately about having a vaginal birth after a c-section, and nothing seems to be on my side.  My incision is a high vertical cut, and that's technically one of the deal breakers to having a vaginal delivery with another child.  However, I have recently read that just because the outside incision is vertical, doesn't mean the inside is the same..it could be horizontal.  So, I will have to call for my surgical records to know this for certain.

My question is for the ladies who have had c-sections and have more than one child.  Did you continue to have c-sections, or did you risk it with vaginal delivery?  I honestly don't want to have another c-section, but I don't think I'd want to take the risk otherwise.

 

Thanks for your time!

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Infectious_Sense read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 5:17 PM

Finally a post right up my alley!

I deliver babies for a living - and I would strongly recommend AGAINST a VBAC. It is so risky - and for what?

I have had so many go wrong - and the ones that didn't go wrong - about 25% wound up having to have a c-section anyway after laboring all day.

It is correct that if you have a vertical skin incision, that does not mean that your uterine incision is verticle. I would bet your uterine incision is horizontal - vertical incisions bleed way too much - and they would have only done it if the baby was in serious jeopardy. Unless you had it in another country- I think Mexico still does vertical uterine incisions.

Not just all of that, though - even if the risk is less than 1% of problems - it is that risk alone that is bad. There are no "minor problems" with VBAC. A ruptured uterus is a life/death situation for mother AND baby. You couldn't pay me enough money to take that risk because of a personal "desire" to have a vaginal delivery.
Infectious_Sense read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 5:24 PM

I promise I won't get on my soap box about VBACs - but I would say the only way (if I were you) that I would do it is if I went into the hospital already completely dialated.

I just wouldn't risk it. If you have any specific questions, though, feel free to email me.

I have delivered many many babies - and I would be happy to answer your questions without all the supposed "statistics" you find online.

My email is:
InfectiousSense@gmail.com

I have had 3 ruptured uterus in my life as a labor nurse - where the baby was completely floating in the abdomen. And it only takes one to scare the hell out of you forever. Actually - a lot of docs / hospitals won't do VBACs anymore - so you might want to check with your doctor / hospital to make sure they will even do it.

Infectious_Sense read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 5:48 PM

On a side note - it is impressive and somewhat "faith restorative" to see that there are patients out there who actually research their options BEFORE they commit themselves. I am impressed that you are looking into everything before ever becoming pregnant.

I wish more were as responsible as you.
babysister138 read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 6:00 PM

I am so glad i am over having babies..i was lucky to have a couple hours of intense labor even with my twins, so i feel for anyone having C-section or complications.
Bless You IS for what you do, my cousin is a supervisor on on premie ICU unit up in MO. Ya'll are amazing
Infectious_Sense read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 6:07 PM

Thank you, babysister.

I felt bad after I left the above comments - I think they may have been too harsh.

I don't mean to sound harsh - but when things go bad in Labor & Delivery - they go bad FAST. There usually isn't any kind of "warning" - like with heart attacks, strokes, etc. Placental abruptions, uterine rupture, prolapsed cord - they all happen suddenly without warning - and the "time limit" is 5 minutes from call to cut - meaning that when the problem is discovered you have 5 minutes to remove the baby from the mother surgically to have an optimal outcome for both.

That adds just a little bit of stress - and I hate to see websites that promote unnecessary risks - like VBACs, midwife deliveries with no monitor..... There are plenty of risks already.... I promise.

If I had $5 for all the "midwife disasters" we have had to fix (some beyond repair) I would retire.

They never tell you about those, though. Nor do they tell you about the disasterous events of a VBAC gone bad. If they did - no one would ever even try it.
Infectious_Sense read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 6:13 PM

And - it gets to me that everyone says "I had mine XXXXX way, and I did just fine".

I am sure that 100 women could say that about VBACs. But - talk to the 1 mother that lost her baby. Or, talk to the one single father that is raising his newborn without his wife because she died.

When you take that into account - the other 100 don't really matter.

Same with midwife deliveries. I am sure thousands deliver just fine at home with no problems. But - I have personally delivered 3 dead babies from disasters that were not fixable in the home. By the time they got to me - it was too late. And the reason for a midwife was "I wanted to do it natural".....

I just don't see the point in unnecessary risks. People would be amazed at the risks already present - before, during AND after delivery. I see no need in adding more.

Ok. I promise I am off my soap box again.
Marks read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 7:56 PM

I'll go out on a limb here and say that I_S knows what she is talking about...Okay, that is a very strong limb, so I guess I was not very brave. :)

Yesican, I hope all goes well. My sister had several miscarriages over many years before giving birth to my (second) nephew. Seems age does have some affect, regardless of outlook.
yesican32 read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 9:08 PM

i don't want a vbac just for the "natural" way...there were several reasons.

i was away from my daughter for almost two days because my blood pressure went even higher after they closed me up..i think at one point it was 180/160..and my arm started throbbing with pain after that. and my heart was racing incredibly. that may not have anything to do with the c-section, but it scared the hell out of me. plus the fact..i didn't like the feelign of going numb..i didn't like them digging around in my back (they had a "student" doing mine...didn't make me feel great at all). they wouldn't allow anyone in the room with me that i knew. i was in pain for a long time after that.
yesican32 read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 9:11 PM

the only thing i liked about it was alyssa not coming out with a cone head (a stupid reason, i realize..but htat just proves my point that i didn't like it at all)

but with all that said, the ruptures do scare me off..and in the long run (since it took SOOOOOOO long the first time just to get to 4 cent...and that's all i could go) i don't think i would like the idea that all my struggle is for nothing and i wind up getting a c-section anyways, after all that

there is still much to think about. i do appreciate your notes very much..and the fact that you obviously know what you're talking about (i know that certain magazines and articles tend to lean one way or another, no matter if they say that or not)


thanks for taking the time
Marks read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 9:14 PM

Your welcome.
sroberts read my blog view my photos
Apr 30, 2007 | 9:17 PM

My doctor told me that to have a vaginal delivery after my c-section 4 yrs prior, could possibly re-open itself and infect the baby. I certainly didnt wanna take any chances so I had a repeat c-section. Not to mention I had to start all over and learn how to be a "first time mom" for the second time. :-)
WandaTx2003
May 1, 2007 | 4:40 AM

I had a emergency c-section with my now almost 15 yr old after being in labor with her for over 24 hrs and complications made them decide to go ahead and do the c-section, after that I had 2 more girls all c-section and I personally wouldn't have changed a thing. My advice is keep doing the c-section and not risk anything more than you have too... Hope that helps...
Infectious_Sense read my blog view my photos
May 1, 2007 | 11:31 AM


You are welcome. Feel free to email me if you have any specific questions, though.
BooBear read my blog view my photos
May 1, 2007 | 9:46 PM

YesICan32,
I can tell you with 100% certainty that I_S knows exactly what she is talking about. I am a labor and delivery nurse also and I have been working with I_S for the past 2 years with her as my supervisior. I_S has more years on me (workwise) and she has been through the "war zone". She and I have shared a quite a few together. VBACs are not what they are presented to be in books or on the net. They are much different in reality! The ones I have experienced as a nurse have ALWAYS turned into the patient having to have a C-section after all is said and done and with major risks as well. Please take I_S's advise into consideration. I too wish that you would speak openly with your doctor first to see if he/she is willing to allow you to do a VBAC.
As well, I am very happy to see a person such as you researching the facts before making a decision. Believe me, I too truly wish the patients that I_S and I have seen would be as responsible as you. Good luck to you and God bless you and your family.
Im_a_frayed_knot read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2007 | 12:36 AM

Doctor sew your vagina shut?
find answer in question.....
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